[@Fabricant451] I'm not arguing popularity, I'm not even saying that final fantasy 1 wasn't a landmark. I'm hesitant to call it a total pioneer, as Phantasy Star literally was relased 2 days afterwards, and had a female lead character to boot. But much like Resident Evil 1 just becuase a game was 'important' doesn't necessarily make it great or even good. I honestly dont think FF games suck (apart from 2 and 13) but I do think a whole half of them are dull/kinda boring/average and the others are decent, with maybe one or two being truly great. Which is the case for basically every longer running RPG series. [quote=@Fabricant451] 12 was widely acclaimed and was the first Final Fantasy game to get a perfect score in Famitsu. . [/quote] Hahahahahahaha guess what else got a perfect score by famitsu? [hider=My Hider] [img]https://cdn.gamerant.com/wp-content/uploads/Final-Fantasy-13-2-Announcement.jpg.optimal.jpg[/img] [/hider] [hider=My Hider] [img]https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--PtnaDQZt--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/wnlsxjngnh8s1zwojmzv.png[/img] [/hider] [hider=And of course..] [img]https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/nintendo/images/7/73/Nintendogs_Dachshund_and_Friends_%28NA%29.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100815153813&path-prefix=en[/img] [/hider] I'm glad you've come around to seeing the light which is Japanese RPG reviews! When it comes to FF the games which are argued as the best are [b]4[/b] by the throwback people [b]7[/b] by the widespread consumers [b]6[/b] by the 7-sucks hipsters and maybe maybe maybe [b]10[/b] by some of the slightly younger weeb-ish crowd, but I understand they are a minority. None of these games, (apart from 7 due to the music, presentation, and my own heavy personal bias for this game) can even make the case for being a pimple on Chrono Trigger's ass. And yes Persona 5 despite the weeb army and hype train is probably the best JRPG of this decade. Final Fantasy 15 was a good effort, but it's clearly not as amazing as it wanted to be. [b]EDIT:[/b] Oh and 14 is irrelevant, its a different genre. What makes a good MMO isn't necessarily what makes a good JRPG experience. That's like saying Donkey Kong is a better platforming series than Mario, because Diddy Kong Racing is better than Mario Kart 64 (which isn't saying much).