Europeans sure love stealing the Fuyuki Grail [s]not looking at you at all, Darnic[/s] and moving it to their homelands.

Given that this follows after some iteration of the Fourth, am I wrong to assume that

[hider]the Einzberns still fucked up their chance of world salvation back in the Third with Avenger, or did they use Ruler and thus avoid both the corruption, yet also managing to not have the Grail stolen by the Nazis?[/hider]