[@thewizardguy], this is the fourth time I'm asking: Please put Jack's sheet in the characters tab. Both Old Amsterdam and myself use it as reference. Right now, we're operating on assumptions and what we remember about Jack, not what he can actually do. I cannot go back 10 or so pages in this thread every single time I have to check on a character. Considering how creating heroes now seems to be his modus operandi, I'm surprised that he'd put time and effort into them without keeping a tighter leash or with a specific plan. What I was assuming, and this is backed up by the lack of a character sheet I can reference, was that Jack would create "Epics" for purposes and as pawns. If he put so much investment into them, he'd keep them to be bodyguards, or have them "thwart" his villains or allies to keep other heroes off their backs, or have them infiltrate the retinues of the High (or other group) as spies. If you invest a lot of time and effort in raising a thoroughbred show dog, you don't leave it running the streets and potentially being injured or worse by feral dogs and leopards. Also, I understand your fondness for Emblem and need to have characters who are involved in the action. Though you seem to forgetting you have a third. Or is Dusk the one you were willing to sacrifice? And I don't mean "kill", rather suffer at the hands of plot.