[quote=@Spoopy Scary] Take a step back then. It won't do you any good to keep posting in the thread, and it won't look good on you if you only criticize some of the participants instead of talking about the subject. We don't want to become part of the problem, after all! [/quote] I'd agree with the sentiment that I'm gaining nothing positive from being around the thread, I really do. I had the same mindset that I didn't want to stoop to their level...but that was a moral argument that I can't justify if the rules are never followed/enforced. My real life experiences has kind of showed ignoring a problem, only makes it thrive and get worse...If people are fighting, being nasty and directly insulting each other. And you've already done all you can reasonably do...you still -do- have to realize it's there. New people will see it...and I just can't let that go without knowing it has consequences if left to fester. [s]But more selfishly, I just want to piss people off for my mere existence here, because it makes the shit they say about me ten times funnier.[/s] I'll keep respecting and being kind to those that deserve it. And even those who treat me poorly, but it will no longer be unbreakable tolerance. I won't ignore those that mistreat others (or just me) for various reasons. The problem is I have already covered nearly every subject repeated here months and months ago, and civil discussion was almost always a one sided jester on my part. Now people are just repeating themselves, because it isn't about discussion.