[quote=@Dynamo Frokane] [@SleepingSilence] you saw the Stefan vids, correct? Do you now accept I'm not making up [i]facetious statements/jokes[/i] like you accused me of? [/quote] Okay, I mean this as politely as possible. Please. Please, take this constructively. I don't want this to be mud throwing. [s]Just like people not getting what this means[/s]. Or emoticons, being used in the way they are intended to be. Please don't make this out to be a personal thing. Please. I never said you're making it up. Or that you made facetious statements. I said Stefan [b]could have said those things, but in a joking way. Not seriously.[/b] And if it was serious. And the mom thing, seems like it was serious and because of getting abused by her. I asked for whole context videos, on things he flipflopped on politically. Or even shilled for money for something he doesn't really believe in. Not about him being a bad guy. Which these two videos you posted (which didn't have full context either) are making that point instead.