[quote=@catchamber]
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Omniscience alone doesn't infringe on another entity's free will, unless the omniscient being interacts with the other entity.[/quote]

Okay, that's all I was trying to demonstrate with the previous analogy. 

[quote]From the very beginning, I've said that an omnipotent and omniscient being creating everything makes it impossible for whatever that being creates to have free will.[/quote]

Wellllllll does it though? If the gardener above was also a scientist who created the seed, how does that change the tree's life? That's still leaving omnipotence out of the equation..... okay. Let's say you encounter a tree in a garden, and it turns out it was planted by the groundbreaking tree biologist Treebert, who genetically engineered the seed and planted it. He's never pruned it, he's never messed with it really -- well when it was just a little baby tree, he put up some stakes to sorta guide it along its early growth in ways that he knew were healthy for it. But ever since then it's been growing on its own. He doesn't even water it anymore, because he knows it's getting enough from the rain. He [i]could[/i] prune it, water it, shape it, etc.... but he doesn't. Treebert pretty much leaves the tree alone. Does the tree have, uh.... tree will? And if not, why is this different from the previous tree?