[quote=@catchamber] [@mdk] Adam ate of the fruit because Eve convinced him, and she ate of the fruit and convinced Adam because the Serpent convinced her, and they convinced Eve because they rebelled against God out of a desire to surpass them. All of that happened because God created everything while knowing it would develop as such.[/quote] I was kinda going for the other.... but I take your point. [quote]You want an obvious example of God violating free will? Go look up all of the times God hardened Pharaoh's heart when Moses asked him to let the Hebrews go. You obviously know how God "responded" to [i]those[/i] "choices". It's not necessary for me to mention this to prove my point, because all you need to agree is to understand the consequences of God's described qualities and actions.[/quote] Well that was Moses' interpretation anyway, but yeah. God certainly [i]can[/i] interfere. That's neat and all, I'm just much more fascinated that for the most part, he doesn't. [quote]If we have free will, the Judeo-Christian God isn't omnipotent, omniscient, and the creator of everything, because those two conditions are mutually exclusive. You may feel like you have free will, but that could just be their will controlling your sentiments. [/quote] Could.