[@Silver Carrot] I see. Didn't realize. I feel like I was unintentionally stabbed. XD (pre-apology for being included in this.) [quote=@Odin] 1. You just can't seem to reasonably make a point without stepping over the boundaries of what is considered reasonable discussion right? I have a 'long' list of rules. On my 1x1, I have 12 do's and don'ts. Is that too much? Maybe that's the point - to weed out those who think I'm too demanding? The 'vibe' you get doesn't really seem based in reality. If you want feel free to point our 3-4 RP's that are active right now that do this. 2. Irrelevant. I don't like the colors so I don't do it. That's my decision as an RPer. You don't have to follow this ''cultural bandwagon'' you talk about - that's a choice. That you follow along is your own problem, not mine. Doesn't even relate to the discussion because right from the start you misunderstood why people include rules and passwords and therefore your entire paragraph here is just not required. 3. Well, I don't think that's a good idea - people who don't know a lot about the setting can still be valuable assets. I've experienced this as I happened to run Naruto RP's for the longest time. As it so happens, a lot of non-Naruto watchers are good at roleplaying it with a helping hand. That's the beauty of it - I never said I want passwords to be banned or disappear entirely. I said I abandon ship. People are free to put in passwords (or in this example, quizzes) but I just won't join. That they want to include it is their decision - and me not going along with is mine. To answer your (stupid) question: a GM is allowed to add infinite hoops for players to jump through. That nobody will join is their problem, but they have the right to add as many or little hoops as they want. Saying otherwise is idiocy. 4 Yes. 10.000 words isn't that much for me, but I understand it is for others. It's irrelevant though - whether you wrote 10 or 10.000, the answer would be yes. And 100.000.000 would be a yes too. Because it's not my RP. I don't decide what the test post length is - I just have to fill it in. And you know, 'no' is an answer too. I can decide not to fill it in. Their loss. So yes I'm OK with it. epic xd 5. You asked that before and the answer is the same - any limit is acceptable. You decide yourself whether you want to jump through that hoop or not. Such as the case here - a hidden password. I'd not jump through that hoop but the hoop is acceptable. 6. Did- did you just answer your own question? Did you just say it's the GM's choice? Jesus fucking christ. Why write me a 20.000 word essay about why it's unacceptable only to answer your own question. Really, I mean this in the best way possible. Get some fucking help. 7. Now this, this is just gay. Sending love to people? Jesus christ. [/quote] [@Odin] Stop taking unpersonal things personal...(and a more personal and rhetorical question. Do you separate a hundred times because you think it's good writing structure?) 1. It's strange to deny the reality of people having too many rules when you yourself admit to putting 24 of them in a 1x1 section, on purpose to be selective... But I would happily PM you many examples of roleplays that have unnecessarily long rule sets. But not on the thread itself to spread drama, because that's never my intention. I also sadly don't fully trust you not to try to stir up trouble if I did provide examples. You don't have to take my word for it, maybe just look through the forum yourself when you have the time. 2. It wasn't complaining. It was relevant to things I only see this forum do and do more frequently because of the intent to copy others. My point was I'm specifically not demonizing people for doing what they feel like. If you had nothing to add, you didn't need to reply to it. 3. I'd say I appreciate the consistency, but you were just talking about a single password being too much of a hurdle. But I agree you have the right do it and have nobody join as a result. ([s]also why are you using periods for numbers? Never mind, it's not important.[/s]) 4. Semantics, but I didn't ask the same question in that case. You jumped ahead of my question with a more broad answer that happened to fill the next questions. 5. I agree that the idea isn't a good one. Though thanks for adding that (stupid/idiot) part again. But the question never was [b]can[/b] they. It was [b]should[/b] they? Hopefully you notice the difference. <.< 6. See #5. And also, because you can't be respectful, I warned you already and you still wish to be personal. You're goddamn thick, if you couldn't tell I was speaking hypothetically and childish as fuck for persisting with this shitty attitude you keep presenting. Grow up. 7. See #6. Last sentence. >Note to self: Read whole post before replying, so you stop acting respectively halfway through only to see the rest and go..."oh..."