[@Alexei] I've provided accurate, measurable comparisons, and yes, many martial artists can break cinderblock. In no way am I lying, just because you say I'm lying. I provided proof, screenies, quotes, and videos to back up my argument. You just ignore that and declare me wrong with no backboard to support those bullets. I'm not shenanigans, you're just full of sh*t. I demonstrated what boxers are capable of with something called [b]evidence[/b]. We like to use [b]evidence[/b] around here, and not straw man arguments. You're purposefully vague on your points because you know I was factually more specific about physical abilities than my opponent, and you can think of no other way out of this hole you dug for yourself. Go to Google. Look up the question... "How hard can a boxer punch?", or, "How fast can a boxer move?", or "How fast can a boxer react?" Now line up that result with someone from Kull's weight class. That wasn't so hard, was it? Mmhmm. There are definable limits there. It's quantifiable. Now go look up, "How fast do you have to be to be quick?" Yeah, no. Not gonna happen. Just don't get blindly involved in fights that don't concern you out of your own personal bias and you'll do fine here.