[@catchamber] *just to mention again for clarity sake I disagree with some of the things he presumes as well, hence devil's advocate, I myself could point out flaws.* Like? (Because the introduction isn't really particularly the actual meat of the debate.) Also, you told me how one day the government wouldn't need to run the world and that people could live without taxation even nowadays. So you probably agree with more things in the introduction than I do. :P