[quote=@catchamber] [@POOHEAD189] Nah, I don't see why leadership is necessary. If people can sustain and defend themselves, why do they need leaders? [/quote] You're arguing against the human condition, my friend. Let's say we have as much resources as we could ever want right in a small itty bitty [s]living space[/s] box. There is still the desire for other things. Land (or Sea, I suppose), and emotional/physical desires. What is to stop floating house A from boarding with fire and steel floating house B to take their beautiful daughter by force, in order to then give her to floating house C for favors in the upcoming transatlantic conflict!? ...I think I just made a premise.