[quote=@Balthazar007] It won the roll by 16. By these new rules, it may have won the roll by even more. ... BUT it would not have done anything to your Totodile [b]THAT[/b] turn. [/quote] Okay, well now you've lost me. You say that the effects won't take hold until the next turn, but then you also say the roll would've been even more in the Larvesta's favor..? So it effects [b]its[/b] roll on the [b]same[/b] turn, but effects [b]my[/b] roll on the [b]next[/b] turn?