[@catchamber] Okay, I found something more interesting to do. So keeping it brief and ending it. You aren't debunking anything by saying something is garbage and you yourself have provided no real sources of your own. You also can't read... [img]https://i.imgur.com/d2rbAny.png[/img] They put their source of information in the very upper title. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Cell+press+study+on+fish Are you denying that the birds listed don't have pecking orders? Must I also google that for you too? I digress, I'm bored with this. You haven't proven your point in human hierarchies which was the original point. I don't need to, the fact is it would likely bound to happen eventually...if one needed to be picked. I mean it's already done in real life...and usually it's not actually that difficult of a task.