[quote=@catchamber]
You're the one defending the eternal necessity of governments, Then you have to admit that functional anarchy can exist.
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Though I'm not, at least not this current conversation between you and me. It was never about that.

In your contrarian ways, you forgot (or again are pretending in such a way it wouldn't matter.) that I already played devil's advocate by posting something having to do with anarchy possibly working. My argument was it was equally if not more logical than typical arguments for socialism. (even though that's basically what it advocated for.) Which also wasn't what you were ever talking about...which you yourself told me that you had problems with what was in it (the article about anarchy working.) than never actually told me what was wrong with it.

Are we arguing about anarchy? Or about human nature wanting leaders, not being an obvious and important truth of the world? It never was about both.

I still don't know outside of -not- birds or fish. Because both have instances of seeking leadership, as many in the animal kingdoms have their alpha's and beta's. What actual human instances we have were in between having strong leadership and no strong leadership, people would willingly choose the latter category.