[quote=@catchamber] Prove that there will always be a leader in every group. Prove that groups can't form without the conscious effort to do so. Prove that there can't be order without a solid direction. Prove that everyone constantly wants more. Prove that all of that's true in every possible circumstance. [/quote] Every nationstate worth its salt has had some sort of central leader, whether or not backed up by a council or Senate. Do what? Are you from earth? "Hmm nothing is getting done and people are starving, I'll start issueing comands! You go farm. You take this spear stand over there and stab anything that don't look like us. You, go fish. Women folk maintain the homestead."- the birth of a group, usually begins when one guy goes "hey!" and everyone follows him...we aren't hive minded insects. Third...what? Life is a order. Down to the very molecular scale, why, without that natural order, there would be no matter. Again...are you from earth? Everyone always wants more, unless you be been conditioned like a monk, even then. more food, more warmth, more women, power, prestige, or comfort. If it weren't for that drive we would all be living in caves.