It matters nothing that if you were the one who brought it up or not, as you seem to be reading too much into it as the statement itself addresses, but I suppose we have little to discuss if you are going to be passive-aggressive about everything and utterly disbelieve all I say simply because of whatever has possessed you, now don't we, [@Dynamo Frokane]? Do prattle on though with what you consider "selective acknowledgment" - it isn't as though I have told you before openly in public format, I am not your mercenary to fight your battles for you or anyone else here, and I say what I wish to who I wish for whatever reason I wish. I have nothing to further add, doing so with be a complete waste of time, so take it as you will; I am sure you were already confident of your answer no matter what I said in return. Now for something more on the record, as much as I doubt California would split, we would do well to have the state of New California, cut off from the rest. Not that I wish it to fall into the ocean or the like, but as with just about any major city, let alone the sprawl California is there, they are a metaphorical cesspool of failed progressive ideals, albeit not as bad as say Chicago or Detroit, but on a much grander scale in contrast and a very costly one to itself as an entire state. Do I think for a moment that "New California" will stick? No, I doubt that, but I give kudos to them for trying yet again.