[quote=@Mara] As for the whole 'people on the outside bitching' thing, I'm honestly neutral. If it were any sort of minor thing that prompted it I'd be wholly against it, but forcing your own ideas onto a player and essentially trying to control their character is not an okay thing. People shouldn't just keep quiet about that. [/quote] I am going to ignore the first part because all I have to say about that is that the whole example you gave is telltale sign of poor GMing. This discussion isn’t about that and I’ll gladly and wholeheartedly agree that you should be and are always free to leave an RP when you think the RP is mismanaged. But shit like this happens everyday so my question is what the fuck was different this time for shit to literally blow up into the public sphere of RPG, like lmao, you can’t act like this is something that was handled purely internally within the members of the RP. Shit obviously blew up. And I think we both know that what went differently was how certain people handled the entire situation - which leads into the next point. You’re talking about this whole thing as if it is a grave violation of human rights that requires people to SPEAK UP TO STOP THE OPPRESSION OF BAD GM’s AGAINST PLAYERS! when in fact it is nowhere near as certain. Like, I’ll say it again, bad GM’s are EVERYWHERE. There is no need to speak out against them in such a way - there is no need to create some fake awareness in the public eye and certainly not by effectively nailing them to the shame pole (or the English equivalent to that Dutch word, I don’t know what to call it). Next we’ll be saying wir haben es nicht gewüsst when someone says a GM was oppressing players in an RP we might’ve been in.