[quote=@ReonenMiruel] Essentially, this is why I said "I'm not sure how far I'd go with that". The main idea is that, as I said above, it's kinda hard to maintain the identity of a place unless the people that are coming in are willing to assimilate into the culture - and therefore values - of that place. Unfortunately, the places we are talking is predominantly white at the moment, and turning that into anything else - barring a slow process at the end of which I really couldn't give a damn if everyone's skin color is equivalent to a neon sign - would be a mistake. [/quote] So help me understand what you mean then, you ARE a civic nationalist, and not a ethno-nationalist. And you are happy with non whites coming into non white countries as long as they assimilate and it happens gradually? And how do you feel about white immigration to white counties, like greeks and italians in australia?