[quote=@Andrew Blade]
I've heard the 18 shootings thing too. My wife told me someone posted about it on facebook, and I said, "I call bullshit. Source?"

One of my favorite conversations is with people that want to ban "black" rifles, or guns in general. We are not Australia, there is no way in hell we could successfully and safely remove the firearms currently in the market even if it wasn't a terrible idea. And turning in your own firearms to prevent gun crime is like giving yourself a vasectomy because your neighbors are having too many kids. 
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The most obvious/frequent counter to is "one (or the 3 or 4 we actually have supposedly had.) is too many." But then you have to ask, why was the 18 lie spread by so many in the first place? Why do people lie about AR guns being used in mass shootings more than handguns? When that's untrue. Why not wait until the bodies are buried before demonizing 90 percent of the country? It's because fear is a good tool for propaganda...and when you actually stop using emotional arguments, you'll realize they don't have many other solid arguments. And the only argument you can use, repealing the 2nd amendment and/or removing guns, is a widely unpopular one that even most democrats don't actually want.