[quote=@Xandrya] My opinion is that gun ownership shouldn't be a right, but a privilege, if that. Obviously what I believe doesn't matter so since that's not changing, I've yet to see any real change be put forth in the aftermath of all these school shootings. If I'm mentally ill (bad example because that bill was struck recently), all I have to do is tell my friend to go buy the gun for me and that's it. That's all it takes. [/quote] Right, the reason it's easier to buy a gun is because guns are a right, cars are a privilege. I'm very disappointed that you feel that way, but to each their own. What change do you propose being made in the aftermath of these shootings? Everyone keeps talking about how "nothing is being done" but no one has any actual practical propositions that would work. Straw purchases, ie, your friend buying the gun for you, is illegal. So yes, that's all it takes for you to get a gun if you are mentally ill. But murder is also illegal, and all it takes for that is for me to slit someone's throat, or wrap my arms around their throat and squeeze until they stop moving. There's literally nothing stopping me, except my own values and the repercussions for what happens after. If someone wants to murder a bunch of people, what do you think we should do in order to prevent that? You talk about buying a gun being extremely easy, and you're right, it is "easy" if you're a law-abiding citizen. A thorough background check is conducted, and some people have to wait several days for the results of the check to come back. Anyone with a purchase permit or a concealed carry permit has already been subjected to a thorough background check as well. If you don't have any legal issues preventing you from buying a gun, then yes, it is easy, though it takes about 6 pages of paperwork to transfer the firearm in addition to the background check, not to mention the price of firearms being pretty high, depending on what you want to buy. If I timed it, and a person came in knowing what they wanted, having all the proper permits, did not exhibit signs of substance abuse, aggressive behavior, or mental instability, they could buy a gun in probably fifteen minutes. But that means that they have to have a clean background, proper ID, and the necessary funds. For the average criminal, those are not easy. As for why not insurance for gun owners, again, it's a right, not a privilege. The reason it's a right is so that what happened in Germany in the 1940's can't happen here. The same thing with North Korea, and Venezuela, and any other totalitarian regime. An armed citizenry is extremely difficult to impose injustice upon. And "must buy insurance for my health" is also a huge bullshit issue I have as well, but they repealed that part of the affordable care act, so it doesn't matter any more. You shouldn't HAVE to buy anything just to be alive- but that's going down another stupid road.