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I'm not against the 2nd amendment in the slightest. At least liberals are [i]trying[/i]. All they'll do is say the left is stupid and they hug their guns like 17 deaths is 'no reason to go overboard.' It's honestly disgusting. 
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The problem with that statement is, if that first sentence is true, you are not the establishment pushing for gun control. No one who actually understands guns, or the 2nd amendment wants what the mainstream/progressive left is pushing for on guns. Using the word liberal, is almost a farce because it's anything but. The policies they've came out with, do nothing to solve gun crime, already exist in law, or want to do something completely unconstitutional. No one is unsympathetic toward loss. People claiming otherwise and using dead children to push broken/unlawful policy is distasteful. 

There's two camps here, one completely reactionary and misguided at best. (Passing laws out of panic, isn't intelligent.) Or two, rational thought and knowledge that gun control and gun bans around the world aren't effective in reducing crime. We already have laws that should have stopped this and in this case in particular there's far deeper problems that put holes in several arguments the left usually makes. I.E Only the police force was meant to have guns. In a case where the police were around but stood down while children and teachers were put in danger, injured and killed.

So, what they're trying to do is spread fear and misinformation. So I don't want to give them pats on the back for shouting with passion, since they have no evidence, policy and/or sense to back it up.