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Kurone Ono
Onmyōji



Age: 48
Gender: Female
Weight: 45 kilograms
Height: 165cm

Personality: Kurone's personality betrays her graceful and innocent appearance. She's selfish, arrogant and flat out one of the rudest people you'll ever meet... Kurone isn't above foul play and delights in taking advantage of others. To sum up her personality as simply nasty is an injustice. She's a horrible person. The type of person that makes you doubt in humanity. Her only saving grace is she has a soft spot for people with 'genuine' personalities and has gotten into rather serious trouble several times due to it. Otherwise, Kurone is the meanest baddest foul mouthed bitch and almost all of her peers avoid her like the plague, which suits her fine because she's extremely picky about her company.

Background: work in progressssssssssssssssss

Elemental Affinity: Yin
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Origin: Oblivion
Magic Circuits: 30 Class A Magic Circuits
Magecraft: Expert Houjutsu practitioner. While well versed in divinion as well, Kurone excels in curses and shikigami manipulation.
Other Abilities: She's into gardening.

Mystic Codes/ Magical Items: Midnight. A black cloak that Kurone dons at all times. Bestowed upon her clan centuries ago by Tsukiyomi, Midnight is a legendary defensive item possessing a myriad of abilities. The most significant one being it's ability to absorb magical attacks fired at Kurone, converting the magical energy into yin energy and storing it within itself for later use by Kurone. While Kurone is already considered first-rate mage, it is Midnight's ability to augment and elevate her yin powers into a whole other class that separates her from the rest. Midnight has the ability to erase her presence when needs to plan an ambush or a quick get-away. It does act as a form of armor against physical attacks, reducing damage but it's defensive capabilities are more geared towards magical defense. The wearer gains resistance to mind control and other ailements as well as having their physical abilities boosted. However, Midnight is not all-powerful. Using Midnight excessively eats at the wearers soul, shortening their lifespan. This is in addition to the physical and mental backlash it causes. Kurone has been rendered immobile for extended periods of times before due to abusing Midnight's powers.

Weapons/Other Belongings: Shikigami, Ofuda, the typical Omyouji fanfare.

Wish/Reason for Being in the War: To bring her daughter back to life.
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I've got a sheet in progress. Don't have enough to show as a WIP yet, but wanted to make sure it was clear that i was still here.
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I'm showing tentative interest. Having watched the most recent Fate (Fate/Apocrypha) addition I'm willing to throw my hat into the ring.

I think I shall take the coveted master position.

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So when should we have our sheets up? I have one I made, but I'm working on a second just in case the first isn't going to work.
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I have a four day weekend coming up from classes so Lancer's sheet will be done in that timeframe.
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I don't usually post works in progress, but since nobody has posted a Servant yet I guess I'll be the first.

It's just his stats and skills right now for the most part, plus his Noble Phantasm. Let me know if he looks too powerful/not powerful enough and I'll make some changes.

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So, I started developing this character before I knew Arjuna was actually in one of the games. But I decided to go full steam ahead anyway. My original idea was Charred Body, from several native american myths. But I couldn't find anything really interesting on him that inspired me to push forward.

For obvious reasons, I may end up cutting down on Arjuna's power, since her two big noble phantasms are of the variety of "NO COUNTER ONLY DEATH NEVER MISS" special moves. I figured I'd wait till some more Servants went up so I could balance around that, but I'll balance in post.



If Arjuna ends up not working, I have a second character plotted.
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@Reflection

So my opinion means practically nothing but I'll say it anyway. Having looked at Arjuna, I think she looks awesome but I will say one thing against her. That is a ridiculous number of Noble Phantasms.

Most servants only have 1 or 2 and even having 3 is seen as really special; Astolfo has 5 and that's seen as a very exceptional case. The version from the game only has 2, Pashupatastra and Gandiva, so I'd suggest paring it down to these two, Brahmashira and maybe the chariot at most.

Other than that it looks fine, though divinity should be a class skill. Your stats are actually lower than the Fate version and the Noble phantasms aren't too bad, though two instant kills are a bit much; maybe look at the Fate version of Pashupatastra for ideas on how to balance it a bit.

Keep in mind that she'll probably be the Gilgamesh/Karna of this war.
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Meanwhile, there’s someone out there with a Karna/Arjuna/Indrajit sheet that has every single damned Astra.
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Ha, probably. I tried cutting it down to a few ones that seemed the most viable. I overdid it a little because the wiki talked about how the archer class had the most NPs.

I'll simplify a few.

My other idea is making Ravana, so depending I may try that too see what people like more.

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I overdid it a little because the wiki talked about how the archer class had the most NPs.


I wonder if perhaps Gilgamesh is messing with the averages a bit.
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Ha, probably. I tried cutting it down to a few ones that seemed the most viable. I overdid it a little because the wiki talked about how the archer class had the most NPs.

I'll simplify a few.

My other idea is making Ravana, so depending I may try that too see what people like more.

@King Cosmos@Cu Chulainn


For whatever it's worth, I'd be more interested in seeing Ravana.

@King Cosmos I love that WIP a lot. The Iliad nerd in me is super stoked.
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Sooo... can we make a master that fights on par with servants? I remember that teacher in fate ubw who was boosted by caster and almost killed saber 1v1. Or even kid Emiya could 1v1 servants.
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Sooo... can we make a master that fights on par with servants? I remember that teacher in fate ubw who was boosted by caster and almost killed saber 1v1. Or even kid Emiya could 1v1 servants.


God, no. Obviously I'm not the GM, but barring some very, very special circumstances Masters just aren't anywhere near the same level as a Servant. Servants are powerful enough that outside of specialized circumstances like Grail Wars, a Master shouldn't even be able to summon one.

Master vs Master combat is one thing, but a Master vs a Servant is just going to get wrecked if they actually try to fight.
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Sooo... can we make a master that fights on par with servants? I remember that teacher in fate ubw who was boosted by caster and almost killed saber 1v1. Or even kid Emiya could 1v1 servants.


Kuzuki was able to fight Saber mainly because of Caster’s aide, but also because he caught Saber by surprise. Without Caster, he wouldn’t have been able to take her on.

In Shirou’s case, it was because of Unlimited Blade Works being a hard counter to Gilgamesh along with Shirou really catching him off guard. Really, it’s Anime Protagonist Syndrome at its finest, if we have to go that far.
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From the Wiki, which isn't the greatest source but the one I could access most easily;

For a human trying to apply pressure to a Servant, even one physically the size of a child, it feels like trying to bend a steel beam. Punches with all of their strength will not even cause a Servant to budge a millimeter, and even Souichirou Kuzuki, whose punch is potent enough to crush a human's skull, can only slightly move Archer's head from the impact. Stabbing them with a knife does nothing but bring about a "prickling irritation" that does not hurt at all.
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Also from the wiki, since the above only applies to normal humans and not mages.

"Humans utilizing ten Command Spells would also be able to damage Servants. Kirei Kotomine and Kiritsugu Emiya at the peak of their strengths during the Fourth Holy Grail War could defeat Servants, but only when the weakest, Caster and Assassin, are at their most exposed, or when they have special conditions in their favor like surprise or suitability against the opponent."
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Here it comes, the "supah-mastahs". I feel creating a master as strong as a servant sort of nullifies roleplaying as a master. The whole point of role playing a master is usually to enjoy working around the fact that you're weaker than these living legends yet somehow be able to hinder/defeat them through tactics/prep. Even the weakest servant should be far more powerful than the strongest master. I don't think this means you should create a master that's helpless but definitely not one who could fight on par with a servant.

@ReflectionWtf is that amount of noble phantasms?! In fact, some of those seem to be nothing more than your average skill/spell. Not every ability of your hero has to be defined as part of their noble phantasm. Casters don't have 1000 'noble phantasms' which are each basically a spell and you have heroes like Lancer who had his cursed charm that made all women attracted to him yet it wasn't defined as a noble phantasm from what I know.

Noble phantasms should be of a distinct weapon/armor/equipment/trait of your hero. A hero could possibly have multiple legendary items in real life but usually only one is selected as the noble phantasm during the war. Exceptions to these are people like Emiya or Gilgamesh whose phantasms have the theme of drawing from an unlimited source...
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@Animus yeah, kinda why I was waiting for other servants to come up. So I'd get an idea of how it's done. I planned to adjust for balance anyway.
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