[quote=@SleepingSilence] I'm like 99.99% percent certain counseling on your end was literally -never- brought up once. [/quote] [quote=@Penny] I should also point out that there would certainly be a prescription process for obtaining the meds to end a life and you could easily build in counseling and other treatment as necessary precursors for ending your life, really not going to be an over the counter thing. [/quote] [quote=@Penny] the patient must be fully aware of his/her condition, prospects, and options [/quote] I guess this is that one time in a thousand you are mistaken. A. I dont want to dismantle society. B. Yes all gender identifications are equally valid. C. I feel I'm fairly unambiguous most of the time. I will be happy to clarify a non zero and non infinite number of points for you. [quote=@Penny] I do think suicide bombers have a right to take their own lives, just like anyone else, its the murdering of all the other people that I have an objection to, so no, I dont need to backtrack. [/quote] Hey I found the original quote! Turns out I was responding to a post from you and I was discussing the right of individuals in general to kill themselves. Suicide bombers being a subset of people and all. I'm sure you didn't mean to take what I said out of context.