[@Penny] There's other posts that seem to imply you'd be more than okay to tear apart established rules in law and culture. Like biology. It's not even that out of left field, many people want to destroy America's current culture, because they believe it's patriarchal and etc etc. So stripping america of what made it america is a tactic, plenty want and are actively using. *Progressives The damage property was something just now added. So that does change the original given stance. (and you still didn't include, harm others for a reason I hope was related to effort, not thought.) But it's so obviously contradictory because bombs, are obviously bound to cause damage. A non-harming exploding vest is an absurd oxymoron. So, foregoing getting back into that topic. It wasn't a claim and statement based in reality. [s]Edit: Also, while re-reading, I completely blanked out that I had this conversation with several others. Some who make equally ludicrous claims. So preemptive apology, if it feels like I'm putting a target on your back. At least, you didn't say "Oh, not all suicide is bad..."(though you may have thumbed it up.) Hmm...[/s]