[@FalloutJack] I never stated that Gonad wasn't prepared (as hinted at when I wrote that he "seemed" to ignore the suspicious sounds), nor did I auto-hit, if you'll look closely and notice such words as "may" and "would" placed appropriately. I did however work to limit your options by addressing the futility of certain responses. I did phrase my moves for what they were from an enemy POV, them being untelegraphed and unexpected. That comes from practical technique and contributes to the difficulty I estimated your character might suffer, but ultimately it's only speculation for dramatic effect and to make clear the conclusive prowess of Gonad's counter. I am implying that his attack is likely beyond the Trygon's capacity for response, acknowledging how you figured the same for Trygon's attack. The critical difference is in the following evidence, which alters the circumstances. +++ [img]https://i.imgur.com/Gv90UTQ.png[/img] +++ As it is, Gonad isn't off guard and is easily capable of striking whilst remaining in a prone position with little warning. In his profile it states that he can strike without conscious thought, using muscle memory. As your creature has no such stated ability, this gives Gonad the initiative in a counter. +++ [img]https://i.imgur.com/SmqzKuz.png[/img] +++ You say I'm the one granted a chance, but understand all of the circumstances. An extra eye isn't an indicator of additional close range spatial reflexes, and it pretty much tried to open arm attack a wary opponent without guarding itself. Leap on a tiger and you'll get bitten, even if it's laying down. That's why I had Gonad give Trygon his "don't do it" glare. +++ [img]https://i.imgur.com/ZZVTpOV.png[/img] +++ I paid ample attention to your wording. Gonad would have seen the Trygon enter his vision whilst it was still mid-leap. Taking this into account, he'd have little trouble reacting, though a normal man may have been taken off guard. Note also that from the Trygon's POV, he firmly believed that Gonad really wasn't prepared, and remember that in the way I phrased it, Gonad only 'seemed' unprepared. Thus in actuality, Gonad was ready and the Trygon wasn't. It's not at all expecting him to counter with lethal force. +++ [img]https://i.imgur.com/uc9DqhN.png[/img] +++ You said it, not me. I also never said Gonad was going to grab it. He's countering by sticking his pipe through its eye, past the orbital, and into its brain as it lunges into him, unless given reason why such a thing wouldn't work.