[quote=@POOHEAD189] I wasn't even aware about their testing facility being damaged. Then again I haven't follow the North Korea stuff that has been in the news recently very closely. That is probably the reason they're wanting talks. [/quote] Probably not "THE" reason, but it would surprise me if it's not a factor. Plenty of other factors.... couple Aegis-equipped battle groups parked off the shore, ready to spank any warheads back down to the surface, can't be helping the outlook. And there are, I mean, no one wants to believe it but there [i]are[/i] legitimate diplomatic milestones being achieved. China on board with sanctions was a big deal. I would say the progress here is a combination of famine-fatigue, yakkety-sax bungling of a shitty nuclear agency, losing the most one-sided dick-swinging contest in the history of dicks, and [i]weirdly[/i] significant diplomatic pressures whose application flies in the face of decades of foreign policy from every side of every aisle in basically every developed country on earth. The last bit is astonishing but I don't think we can discount it. [quote=@Odin] [@mdk] I'd be really really disappointed if that was their only facility because that's some Bond-tier fuckup. Any security expert knows you spread your facilities and critical assets to minimize risk of exactly these type of events. That said I suppose it's possible. [/quote] well they're not rich. And like.... I mean it's a punchline, but consider the possibility that the DPRK's space program [i]maybe actually was[/i] built by the Kims. Is it really that far-fetched? And would it surprise anybody if it was bloated, short-sighted, and terrible? You know... like all the Kims? [quote=@PrinceAlexus] In part.. China nd others also suspect the mountian is already badly compromised. Land slips, trees dieing off and workers falling prey to unknown illness and weakness... Should like anything familiar... If they tested much firther they may make a full blown nuclear incident on China border and the radiation contained in the mountian be released. They already had increased seismic activity.[/quote] Well yeah but the premiere league and/or NFL increases seismic activity. But yes, this is a real thing we've observed and it's fairly serious. I don't have the articles on hand but they haven't done diddly since the mountain went super-sour, and although tons of pressure was already on the regime at that time, I don't think it's coincidence that they stopped all testing right then. ---- Also, the things that are reportedly on the table for negotiations don't seem commensurate with this being [i]just[/i] a response to program failure. So that would seem to imply again that some of the stuff we're doing is working. What stuff specifically, I dunno, but we've been doing a lot differently since Trump. If that's shocking, remember that Dennis Rodman is North Korea's favorite human being, and that apparently none of this has to make sense.