[quote=@Willy Vereb] As for Rhaetia given the ancient roots of my nation it's possible that you were once occupied by a Yelinor tribe. Or it could be a tribe of non-Yelinor elves from around the same region. My nation is also supposed to have great skills at shipbuilding. Depending on details the existence of your people might also confirm one of the two competing theories about the origin of Yelinor. 1.) They are the original elves who remained in their magic rich home and gradually changed to what they are now. 2.) They are elves who had wandered North and discovered a magical island which gradually changed them into the Yelinor. The only conflict plot-wise I can see is the Rhaetians' secret to shipbuilding. Since if it came from Yllend'tollome then most likely that technology is quite frequently seen with Yllendthyr and its subjects. Although it could be just an ancient technique already forgotten in Yllendthyr or perhaps it was something kept secret and never spread to the other tribes? We can sure discuss the details. Everything can be worked out. [/quote] You mentioned they might be "different" Elves, which would probably work better since I think it's fairly clear my folk came from the deep Western Ocean somewhere and conquered Rhaetia from the Empire that used to rule the region. They then settled, inbred with the local Humans to some extent, and passed on their secrets for shipbuilding, which the Rhaetians jealously guard though I am certain other Elves are more than capable of building excellent ships. About a hundred years agoish the ships from the West simply stopped coming and no one knows why. The Rhaetians are searching for it but have been unable to find it to this point, believing to perhaps have sunk into the sea. It is part of the reason why they're amazing Navigators, they go far beyond the reach of pretty much anyone else and come home alive. I also threw in the semi-Crusade Paladin types because why not? They're trying to support their Azuriel kin and dislike the Sorcerer Kings.