[quote=@Mara] But hasn't it already been established that people (or rather, the mods) don't mind if someone posts a Casual RP in Advanced or vice-versa? What stops people from making an invite-only Advanced roleplay where the more casual members of the friend group aren't lynched by the GM for making shorter posts (a thing that barely happens in Advanced anyway, at least from what I've seen)? Why not just do the same in Casual, where the more advanced members of the friend group can make their posts however long they want? Because, let's be frank, maximum paragraph restrictions are a little (read: very) ridiculous to enforce. Why do people insist on sitting on the fence with a redundant tag that only serves to decrease activity in the Advanced subforum? [img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386874047528435723/446807296471990273/unknown.png[/img] Note also the "see individual GM for RP specific standards" connected to both descriptions. Now, before I write any further, I'm operating under the premise that this thread is only for discussion and doesn't particularly call for change. While change would be appreciated, it's obviously sort of silly to try and outright ban a tag that people put in their roleplay titles. Instead it discusses the issue and collects different people's views on it. Right? [sub](This post is also gonna be really disjointed because I keep getting distracted oops)[/sub] Personally, I think the High-Casual tag was founded on the stigma of elitism in Advanced that intimidates many roleplayers. People feel that because their writing isn't a whole damned novel, (this comma is probably in the wrong place but honestly the flow feels weird without it) they should stay in Casual and git gud(tm). I don't think this is the case. I've never really seen Casual and Advanced as being separated by post length, because in terms of post length the two overlap a lot. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if there's posts in Casual that are longer than some Advanced posts. Instead, I view them as two tiers of post [i]quality[/i] and world-building. Casual roleplays are ([i]typically[/i], though everything described in this post is based on my roleplay experience alone) set in pre-determined real world locations, and posts feature more fluff and 'collabs' between writers. Advanced has more world-building, typically set in GM-created or existing fictional worlds, with posts that are made up of content more relevant to the plot, instead of a paragraph about someone brushing their teeth. Unless it's a roleplay about people who brush their teeth, in which case that paragraph would be relevant. Again, this is all how I view it and there are plenty of roleplays that "break the norm". Yes, this post is probably me regurgitating everything that's already been said. But I want to be a part of something, damnit. (Also, I don't think removing the subforums outright and using the tag system instead would be any good. At least with subforums you have the convenience of not having to click through page after page of Free/Casual/Advanced (choose whichever one is most relevant to you, reader) roleplays just to find one that suits your skill level. Maybe if an option to hide roleplays with a certain tag was implemented this could work, but that would require even more work from Mahz.) [/quote] If someone posts a Casual RP (using that term loosely to avoid the [url=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Overton_Window_diagram.svg/220px-Overton_Window_diagram.svg.png]overton window[/url]) in an Advanced section, gets a group together, and has a successful RP... then we have an RP that works and may be mistakingly placed in the wrong spot. It's still site activity and it's much better than the many GMs who make an RP and let it die after about 20 posts (we all can hand on heart say we've been that GM, or been in an RP like that). I can also agree with you that Advanced RPs are more in-depth and detailed. It's like comparing the world of Skyrim against The Mummy (random DVD selected for this) where one has so much more detail and depth that not necessarily everyone wants to invest time into. And you're also right... Advance a few years back was very elite with people boasting about how if you weren't a novel writer, you weren't an advance player. Not a long reply, and I apologise for not having more detail, but I can't disagree with much with what you say at the same time. Removing the section may help, but people want to have a separation between that "too short" and "too long" player base; a black and white goal for a rainbow of greys.