[quote=@Brithwyr]
The problem with guns isnt a lack of legislation against them. The problem is that people think legislating against them is enough.

It seems to me that neither Democrat or Republican in the US and neither Labour or Conservative in the UK are tackling the causes or crime, only the after effects. When someone's already involved in organised crime, its too late.

Take, for instance, the town of Addiewell in the UK. Disasterous amounts of child abuse, neglect, drug and alcohol abuse, assault... All kinds of horrible things. But the town also has an 80% unemployment rate. There are no jobs available, and no business seems to want to touch the place. Then the parents inflict that on their kids and the cycle begins anew when the kids have kids.

I honestly believe if we're going to tackle gun violence and organised crime, we need to tackle poverty at the same time
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Alas. There's your problem. Due to crime rates etc people not want to invest, lower texes means services and schools degrade thus making it worse. And things carry on down and down. 

As things spiral down its harder and harder to turn things around.

And when it's that low its vert expensive to reverse and that's money people do not want to spend.