[quote=@Mara] I think 4 is a terrible Fallout game (and a mediocre RPG at best), but I really love playing it as a survival game. That'll probably change when I can finally afford The Long Dark, but modding my game to no end by adding different survival features and removing the issues with survival (no saving) really improves the experience. The game never lets me save if I add mods that add crafting recipes tho, so those mods are out of the question. [/quote] I've heard positive things about The Long Dark, watched a friend of mine stream it a while back and he really enjoyed it - though he's also Canadian, so the game more or less was developed for him. If you like survival experiences, have you considered checking out the S.T.A.L.K.E.R series? Think of them as the Russian Fallout. Metro 2033 is also a good option too.