[quote=@vancexentan]
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Same as apocrypha so I think its heavens feel? 
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Actually, neither the 4th, nor the 5th HGW (i.e.: the ones of F/Z and F/SN, respectively) happened on the Apocrypha time line. They broke away from the common continuity during the the 3rd HGW when the Einzbern summoned Amakusa instead of Angra Mainyu (meaning that the Apocrypha Grail wasn't polluted) and, ultimately ended with Darnic stealing the Greater Grail, leading to the Apocrypha events while the Fuyuki HGW was destroyed forever.


Those two timelines simply can't mesh with one another.