[quote=@Dynamo Frokane] Considering this podcast is online, I think you clearly can get the discourse you are talking about. [/quote] I can...through secondary/outside means. [quote=@Dynamo Frokane] If you are talking about dicourse that specifically invloves you, then you have a short memory. Ive seen you disucuss topics in a civil manner, it doesnt happen often, but you are capable of it. [/quote] Kind of my entire point, yes. And that's unbelievably rich. But it's clear literally everyone is ignoring what got this closed the last time. [quote=@Dynamo Frokane] Also when you say 'online' thats a very broad net, because if you are only attempting debate on an RPG forum and discord where you have bad blood with the people you keep trying to engage, then your problem is quite obvious. [/quote] That people can't learn to not hold grudges, and speak like human beings and follow the rules? Not a personal statement mind. I don't directly engage most people who make problems with me. I've always spoke broadly and generally, and those people throw themselves upon me. (I rest my case.) And, it's "broad" because that's on purpose. In my real life, no one really even follows politics enough to have a worthwhile discussion about it. This forum ain't the only online barren wasteland of political dialogue. There's literally an argument, happening with a moderator present. So I guess it makes it okay. About scorning someone for not being helpful in their workplace. What does that have to do with politics? Do you -have- to like/know me, for my point to be anymore legitimate?