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I can...through secondary/outside means.

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What makes this online thing more secondary or outside to another online thing, is it not all just online? Where are you drawing the distinction?

[quote=@SleepingSilence]

Kind of my entire point, yes. And that's unbelievably rich. But it's clear literally everyone is ignoring what got this closed the last time.
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Well it's a bit of stupid point.

Also you know that a thread isnt one all encompassing  argument. Its a series of many different debates and topics. And yes you did engage in debates that were civil on there. So my point stands.

[quote=@SleepingSilence]

That people can't learn to not hold grudges, and speak like human beings and follow the rules? Not a personal statement mind. I don't directly engage most people who make problems with me. I've always spoke broadly and generally, and those people throw themselves upon me. (I rest my case.)

And, it's "broad" because that's on purpose. In my real life, no one really even follows politics enough to have a worthwhile discussion about it. This forum ain't the only online barren wasteland of political dialogue.

There's literally an argument, happening with a moderator present. So I guess it makes it okay. About scorning someone for not being helpful in their workplace. What does that have to do with politics? Do you -have- to like/know me, for my point to be anymore legitimate?
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People can do those things. You are literally ignoring all the discourse that has happened in all the threads that has happened in a civil manner, you're only focusing on the big arguments.

You say you are speaking generally but you engage with things you disagree with just like everyone else does. Your approach doesn't really differ to most of the approaches on here to begin with, but you seem to like to talk down about these threads while repeatedly enaging with them. You would think you would just stay away but you can't help yourself.

The argument seems to be more about the politics of the legitimacy of a national language, it also seems like the people 'arguing' are actually friendly with each other and aren't taking anything too personally, who are you to decide how people should react to civil discourse? If they feel it's getting out of hand they can say something.