[quote=@Dynamo Frokane] And Smash doesn't have 'twists' it has a formula that doesn't change and it adds new fighters with every iteration. You judging it alongside other franchises which need to pull obscure gimmicks to stay relevant shows you haven't paid enough attention to call it 'lame'. [/quote] Hey, I don't know if you've heard but there's this thing where people can judge something on its own merits [i]without having to drag other franchises into it[/i]. Smash being lame has nothing to do with 'other franchises pulling obscure gimmicks' (whatever the fuck that even means) and everything to do with it being four, soon to be five, games where the only substantial addition has been which Pokemon come out of the balls or which obscure character comes out of a trophy. [quote=@Dynamo Frokane] Maybe if something isn't broke don't fix it. Seems to work for Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead Or Alive and Mortal Kombat. What is your suggestion of major change to make Smash 'better'? Tag Mode? Clothing Damage? [/quote] lol if you think Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive, and Mortal Kombat don't iterate and improve or evolve the gameplay and Smash does. The big innovation for Smash Unlimited is literally "The air dodge moves you back now and in one on one fights we have gimmicky slow motion because otherwise our 'fighting game' still feels like kids playing pretend with toys" [quote=@Dynamo Frokane] So you're literally just saying 'games should change it up'. But giving no examples of what should be changed for improvement on well established fighting game franchises that no one seems to have a problem with. Please never become a developer.[/quote] Why do you constantly do this whole "YEAH BUT THOSE OTHER GAMES!" as if that somehow absolves the one you like from criticism. You keep harping on examples when you've provided no reasons why Smash [i]isn't[/i] guilty as well. What makes Smash better than other games that you incorrectly accuse of being the same thing. Smash is so desperate to be seen as a legitimate fighting game but it's swimming in the kiddie pool. [quote]Maybe we should make Fallout into a JRPG with dancing minigames. You know, just to keep things fresh. [/quote] Hell yeah, let's try to make a point then fall on our face trying to reach for it!