[@Fabricant451]

Yeah yeah, give me some functional ways in which Tekken and Soul Calibur have changed and innovated over the years. I'd love to hear them. Apart from adding super moves and characters because Smash has done that too.

Funny how you grand stand about judging a game on its own merits but make zero actual points about what the franchise is doing wrong and how it can improve. What standard does it fail on exactly? Being a Mascot Party Fighter filled to the brim with fanservice?

[quote=@Fabricant451]

Why do you constantly do this whole "YEAH BUT THOSE OTHER GAMES!" as if that somehow absolves the one you like from criticism. You keep harping on examples when you've provided no reasons why Smash [i]isn't[/i] guilty as well. What makes Smash better than other games that you incorrectly accuse of being the same thing. Smash is so desperate to be seen as a legitimate fighting game but it's swimming in the kiddie pool. 

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Guilty of fucking WHAT?

Not being a game fabricant likes? Jesus christ you could fill a police state with games guilty of that.

Fighting games rarely innovate. They add characters and moves, if there is some Fabricant and Mara secret to making amazing games in that genre I'd love to hear them. If not then shut the fuck up.

Smash is LITERALLY doing the opposite of being seen as legitimate fighting game, with direct quotes from the developers about how it was always supposed to be a party game and not alienate the casual crowd. And since when is game's worth based on it's standing in the competitive scene? You already consider Virtua Fighter to be high quality fighting game, how popular is it on the competitive scene right now? (or ever).

[quote=@Mara]

I'm not gonna waste brain energy on thinking of ways to improve fighting games I have no real interest in just for it to be disregarded because "muh Smash".

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Yeah saying a game should 'innovate' in the broadest possible sense when you have no idea what that innovation should be is a waste of brain energy, we can agree there.

[quote=@Mara]


Too bad. I start tech school in September. You probably won't like anything I put out because there won't be scantily clad anime girls that want you to take their clothes off by matching fruit.


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Yeah it is a shame, I guess I'll have to make do with your isometric cyberpunk 'Retraux' RPG where the edgy white protaganist says nigga along with the crappy low-fi hip hop soundtrack. Cant wait.