[@Fabricant451] Im not quote cutting your text wall. But you have done a great job of telling me what SC and Tekken have innovated on inception. The 3D fighter. Yep they did. Now Tekken has had 7 iterations not counting the spin offs and SC has had 5. With all those sequels youve given a grand total of 5 innovations between them. And this is a series that has been around for far longer than Smash Bros. If you want to get into the nitty gritty mechanics of Tekken and straight up ignore, the air dodge, spot dodging, power shielding, short hopping, wavedashing, moonwalking, meteor smash, sweet spotting, chain grabbing and about a million other fine tuned innovations to the games which you just refuse to acknowledge then this is not a conversation. Moves are upgraded, nerfed, buffed, different frame data and priority not only with every update but with every game. Reducing it down to 'Mario throws a cappy instead of a Cape based on the FIRST gameplay trailer ive game neing relased 6 months from now' being the only change is ridiculous. Also smash brothers is literally its own Genre, you cant suck Tekken's dick for innovating 3D and just causally ignore the inception of the mascot brawler which was shamelessly ripped off by games like Digimon Rumble Arena and Playstation All Stars. Smash is its own genre, its a party mascot brawler that doesnt fit neatly into your simplified understanding of games. It has fighting mechanics and party mechanics. Its a game that has fighting in it that doesnt fit for a hyper competetive scene because its built to be a multiplayer with item pick ups and pseudo platforming. You dont see the One Piece or Naruto games at EVO either even though they have fighting game mechanics. [quote=@Fabricant451] Throw some anime tits in there and you'll probably lap it up. [/quote] What you mean like those oversized anime tits in that game Starless you like where those maids shit and piss on each other? You might be projecting a little here.