[quote=@Inkarnate] I call it like I see it, bro. She has never interested me as a character in really anything I've ever read barring maybe some of the later Ultimate issues and Spider-Gwen. [/quote] I mean, if you don't like the character, that's fine. But you can't throw out the definitive statement that MJ is bland, lacks any character, and has rarely been engaging when that's clearly not the case. I can respect you having your opinion, as ill-informed as it may be, but MJ has always been the more fully-fleshed out, interesting, and engaging character out of the two. And I say this as someone who loves Gwen, what she represents and her retroactive personality. Especially in cartoons like Spectacular Spider-Man. Before they completely bastardized her a decade ago, at least. [quote=@Eddie Brock] I don't even understand this post. There are a great many criticisms that could be leveled against MJ -- and I'd agree with a fair few of them -- but "bland" isn't one of them. Gwen has the monopoly on that front. At least MJ, if nothing else, could be reduced to a label: party girl. What's Gwen's label? "Spider-Man's (dead) girlfriend"? [/quote] And that's at bare minimum, honestly. She had a great character arc of personal growth following Gwen's death in which she evolved past that party girl persona. And much of her 90's career was of a rather strong individual. Meanwhile, again, as much as I love Gwen, she was a rather flimsily defined character prior to her death - largely living in the stereotype of smart, overachieving girlfriend turned incessant damsel in distress. It was the years following her death through flashbacks and retroactive comics that more clearly defined her, and it was other media such as the shows that made her truly interesting and fun. Up until they ruined her in the comics because Marvel's too stupid to realize it's okay to have Peter be a fucking adult.