[quote=@Dynamo Frokane] No independence day is a lovable meme because of all the unironic patriotic 'MURICA stuff that movie nerds cant seem to decide if it is 'so bad it's good' or 'so bad it's cringe'. When Jeff fucking Goldblum is the most normal person in your film, you are in meme territory. Thinking an actor seems nice based on their interviews or whatever is fine, but when you start to trick yourself into thinking that means they are good actors because of it is the issue. Luckily Jeff CAN act when he can be bothered but people like 'lovable' actors like Chris Pratt are mediocre at best. [/quote] I meant Jeff is the only loveable meme because he's the only still-relevant meme. Funnily enough, I don't think Chris Pratt is loveable at all. His brand of 'humour' is shit — contrary to popular opinion, I'm not 12 anymore and I don't really find it all that funny. He's better with a script and lots of direction.