[quote=@Mara]
I honestly don't know anymore. Most of what I see of movies now are brief clips segmented into reviews or unrelated videos as a meme. Movies like Kill Bill aren't really feminist to me, [b]more just female empowerment, which I see as a separate thing to feminism[/b]. In my eyes, feminism has always been about rights, [b]because it's easier to change laws than it is to change stubborn people's perception[/b] about people with tits. 
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Wouldn't you agree that movies (a very powerful form of media). Is part of the process of changing people's stubborn opinions about women?

I agree with you that a good movie with a theme, rarely has to be in your face about it's message because it can be about something without taking you away from the story. This is the difference between a clever film about racism (Pleasantville) and a ham-fisted idiotic film about racism (Bright). 

Kill Bill is almost so effortlessly feminist, that it doesn't even need to promote the fact that it is. It doesn't explain to you why these women are all super independent, extremely powerful, and are able to lead and make decisions on their own accord. It just presents them to you and expects you to accept it. And because its such a well made film you never question it.

[quote=@Mara]
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I've only been exposed to the whole social justice stuff for a couple years, so my idea of feminism is pretty stunted and a product of being around a bigoted grandad my whole life. I'm too young and dumb to be able to form my own opinions, I just spit out fragments of other people's opinions in a string of words.[/b].
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[s]Let's not forget Anti-SJW youtubers with cartoon avatars who make a living from sophistry and lonely insecure men who build an identity around it in discord.[/s]

Yeah I mean self awareness is good, feminism isnt a bad thing and it's not apposed to men's rights advocacy either (at least it shouldn't be). Not all gamers are sexist, and not liking a bad game with a lot of inclusion in it like Mass Effect Andromeda doesn't make you a sexist. But if your issue with the game (and every other game) is women characters being pushed down your throat, then you [i]might[/i] be a sexist.


I could go on and on, but this isn't really the thread to talk about games.

EDIT: Bonus meme, if I had a positive view of Bright then [@Inkarnate] would have disliked it.