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	Based on memory, the most blaring and obvious theme of the movie is revenge. Absurdity, Justice - [i]albeit extremely negative as with most, if not all of Tarantino's films[/i] - Brutality, selfishness, and if you really dig for it, [i]possibly [/i]independence. But considering that the main character has been independent from the starting line, and there isn't any focus there, I don't think it garners attention or acts as an defining theme. But I haven't seen the movies in a long time, so yeah.

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But none of these things, (violence, revenge, personal justice) on their own run counter current to the idea of feminism. The violence in Kill Bill, however brutal is something that male assassins and female assassins both engage with at equal conviction, its simply a means to an end, and the fact the women don't treat violence and fighting any different to the men [b]is[/b] feminist. The same is said for these other character traits such as selfishness, these are not intrinsically non feminist or feminist things, they are neutral, the feminism comes in to [i]how they are contextualized in regard to gender within the film[/i].

The central theme of Kill Bill isn't feminism, but it is a feminist movie in regards to how the female characters are treated and how they act in the film.

You mentioned you don't know a lot about feminism, so in your opinion, why would violence. selfishness, justice go against feminism? I'm curious to understand your definition.


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	The story was never about Beatrice regaining or emphasizing her independence, it revolved around [b]protecting her daughter[/b]. 
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Oh and just a plot correction there, she wasn't trying to 'protect her daughter' as she only found out her daughter was even alive in the last 20 mins of volume 2. She was killing the deadly viper gang out of personal revenge for herself [b]and[/b] avenging her child who she assumed at that point was killed unborn after waking up from her coma. 

This was the film's way of cleverly subverting the whole 'motherly instinct' trope.