[@tex] Answering the comments related to yellow. (I'll get to the specific post critique last.)

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	This may be a little off topic, but considering how this is a thread that compares and contrasts the different sections, it seems to be something that doesn't draw away from the spirit of the conversation. [color=fff200]There isn't really much of a conversation being had in this thread yet when you think about it, though. Just a lot of somewhat agreeable opinions.[/color]

	[color=fff200]I'd preface this with the fact that nobody is immune to making grammatical mistakes[/color], but this isn't the only issue you'll find when looking at the sections on RPG. My concern, or topic of discussion rather, has more to do with standards in relation to Advanced and Casual. Although it's pretty clear that the two sections differ only slightly, and standards will differ further between GM's, I'm curious to know exactly what people expect in an Advanced RP.

	If I were going into something titled 'advanced' for example, I would expect not only legible writing, and zero spelling errors, but near-perfect grammar, and healthy writing habits. [color=fff200]I'll use [@SleepingSilence]'s advanced examples to point out a few things that would immediately trigger me, and likely have me bail in a matter of days if they were repeated constantly. If these were in fact posts written by you, I mean no offense.[/color]

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1. Pointless semicolon, almost immediately.
2. Sentence fragments galore.
3. Present tense done poorly, and immediately followed by [i]past tense[/i] a paragraph later. Subjective perhaps? I'd argue otherwise.
4. Subject confusion.
5. [b]Fluff.[/b]

1. Another pointless semi colon.
2. Vague metaphor, immediately made redundant by the sentence that follows.
3. Tense confusion.
4. Redundant metaphor.
5. Why do people use ellipsis so often.

1. At this point, there have been two paragraph breaks for the sake of exposition, but there hasn't actually been any... Scene change.
2. leaving [b]a [/b]faint chill. Grammar.
3. 'Being' nature's forecast of rain? Maybe 'for' rain? 'is' or 'was' nature's forecast? Grammar.
4. Thoughts are already [i]internal.[/i] Redundant word usage.
5. [b]Passive voice.[/b]
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	And that's less than 10% of the post in question. Perhaps something later in the post would justify the aforementioned, but it's difficult for me to trudge through writing like this. [color=fff200]Although I haven't read all of the advanced RPs on the forum, I can safely say that almost every one that I [i]have[/i] tried to read suffers from a similar amount of grammatical or syntactical errors on a post-by-post basis.[/color] The shorter Advanced RPs are the only exception to this, it would seem.[color=fff200] What's strange is that I don't see [i]nearly[/i] as many errors in casual, despite the fact that some people perceive a difference in skill between the two sections [Advanced>Casual].[/color]

	So, I'm quite curious to know what everyone's standards are for their partner's writing in Advanced and Casual, specifically. Is it fine as long as it's legible and easy enough to understand? Or are there particular errors that bug you to no end? Where would you draw the line? Does this differ between Casual and advanced? [b]Should it[/b] differ between casual and advanced?

	I think it's more interesting to get a detailed first person series of ideas in regards to their expectations rather than their perception of an entire section based on experience.
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Well it wasn't a post about discussion, merely on opinions of the threads in question. I certainly tried to bring up points for those who desired such, so I certainly don't mind partaking in it. 

You are correct. Errors, inconsistencies or just things that can't actually be directly pointed out and instead seem bizarre or clunky. You made some in this very post actually. [i]And if I was my detractors, I can assure you that would be my focus on pointing them out instead of addressing anything you said or meeting you halfway.[/i]

I also agree that most advanced roleplays suffer from things like this. I've been attacked numerous times for claiming such too. I'd argued far worse and less interesting writing on a regular basis. But that's mainly because a lot of it, isn't novel worthy. It's a first draft writing in every regard, there is no professional editor. 

I feel the statement that you'd abandon a roleplay for minor writing errors is one of many problems this site has. There is no sense of community. No one is helping others improve writing. When you join a roleplay and notice writing errors, you don't need to ignore them but there's nothing stopping you from trying to help someone else, so they can improve. It's very petty, and it's that attitude that people avoid advanced sections in the first place.

I also wholly disagree that these problems don't persist in casual, they do. As for personal writing pet peeves or various things people do that can disturb you and distract your ability to write...that feels like it should be in a separate post.

Here's the best way you can actually offer advice to someone's writing and not come off as a personal attack. Suggest how it can be improved, with your own direct examples. (Which for the record, I'll take this as best as I can, and appreciate the time afforded to point out some errors.)

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1. Chalked up to a style choice. But I assume you'd suggest to use a period instead? But doesn't the semicolon's use show a direct connection that a comma wouldn't?
2. Yes, I have a personal issue with sentence fragments. Again, no suggestion is offered. It's also ironically kind of a sentence fragment.
3. Style choice. 
4. Not specified
5. Not an error

1. I agree that a period would have worked better. Will probably fix, since I care as a writer to improve. I just need people who are genuine in criticism and not vague and snobby about it. (Not referring to you.) Though can't say it's not vague.
2. Disagree that it's redundant, perhaps arguably overly constructed.
3. Not specified (Meaning no idea what's being critiqued here. Which isn't a good thing. Being vague about what you are critiquing makes the critique poor and frustrating in it's own right.)
4. Disagree/Style Choice
5. Not an error

1. Disagree with conclusion
2. Correct. Will fix.
3. I don't think being is an incorrect word choice for what I was doing there. Was can also work...
4. Elaborate? Are you suggesting I don't need the last line because it's clear that these are the main characters thoughts? If you can understand this, you wouldn't have pointed out how the previous stuff was fluff because you'd understand/think it was from the characters direct perspective.
5. Again advice preferred.
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