[quote=@Odin]so an essay worth of roleplaying posts that requires you to separate your post into 3 subsequent posts in rapid succession is not 'long' to you so long as it's well written, but a one liner that overstays it welcome (strange way of categorizing it, gonna assume you mean the same as fabricant above) is 'long?' [/quote] No. I think that - "I would include any post that overuses fluff for no mechanical purpose, posts that dump piles of pace-breaking exposition, and posts that break 3000-4000 words." The primary appeal of shorter, or more concise posts, is to allow more prompt and effective reaction from other players. For example, if one of your characters goes on a 30 second spiel about how much they love oven mitts, I cannot assume that a chatty character who likes to butt into other people's conversations wouldn't cut them off 15 seconds in. While there's always a margin for error and control here, it's these moments of 'what if' that should be taken into consideration by all parties. Another example: If a post describes somebody running 15 KMs, and then describes what they're doing by the time they reach the end of that route, what happens if another character intercepts them half-way? Does half of the post get invalidated? Were other characters simply not allowed to interact with this character because 'too bad I don't want to'? Why would it be acceptable to put such a broad seal on a character's ability to interfere with another? It's these huge leaps that make it difficult to play a role. There's some level of balance to be agreed on, and I believe that longer posts do little to find a middle ground on an issue like this. [quote]you mean like adding artificial indents like you were writing a paper?[/quote] IT'S A HABIT. [sub]A good habit, I'd say.[/sub] I hit tab after double enter like it's a fucking tick, man. [quote]we could play your game where we condense everything while remaining true to the key points, in which case a carefully written dialogue between (a character) and (their NPC mother) on the phone in the morning during the morning routine turns into 'their mother called in the morning and then they left.' it's just a question of which you prefer.[/quote] I think there's a disconnect somewhere. To condense does not mean to [i]invalidate.[/i] It's important to decide on what details to include, while also taking into consideration your fellow players, and not barring off their ability to play a role. Ultimately, the difference in experience is decisive here. We clearly have different perspectives and/or have witnessed completely different examples in advanced. I myself have rarely come across longer posts which are so well executed, that they bring shame to shorter posts with similar amounts of palpable content. Additionally, I don't [i]frequent[/i] the advanced section. Most of what I've read dates back to pre-death guild, or 2016-2017. I think that this disconnect in both our intent, and experience, makes it difficult to argue anything that isn't [i]anecdotal[/i]. Considering the spectrum of experiences with Advanced though, I'm willing to believe that there are varying opinions on what constitutes [i]good writing,[/i] and a [i]great deal of those experiences[/i] I've heard seem to agree that Advanced and casual are not all that different. But that would be an entirely different discussion altogether, and veer viciously away from the thread's topic of comparing writing levels/sections.