[quote=@Dynamo Frokane] I'm going to guess [@HaleyTheRandom] wanted your opinions on how you felt about the categories of the forums in terms of writing as apposed to personal feelings you have about people who frequent sub-forums. Because then it quickly turns into the Roleplayers bitchfest thread again and we all know what happened to that. [/quote] You can't talk about it in a vacuum, Dynamo. I stand by what I said. A community makes the subforum what it is, and the community of Arena is [i]yikes[/i]. Even if I glance at it in a vacuum, I see the game-ification of Arena in terms of the leaderboard and go 'This can't go any other way than terribly.' To draw parallels with a tabletop game, in tabletops you have a shitload more systems. Aside from just punching a guy, you also have speech, investigation, smarts and any other manner of skills that could be useful and apply. At the same time, you're still playing in an actual world, so doing something stupid will get you punished, and this encourages, y'know, roleplaying. Arena, however, has one goal: Winning. This does not lend itself to RP, it lends itself to powergaming and the aforementioned ego-contest going on in there. I'm avoiding calling out specific individuals, but I do mean it when I say it's *the* elitist subforum. The people there I would rather stay there, because the infrastructure of the subforum combined with the community creates an incredibly toxic environment, and when I say [u][i][b]I[/b][/i][/u] want them out of my RPs, [u][i][b]I[/b][/i][/u] want them out of my RPs. You can hang around in there all I want; my opinion of the subforum won't change, and this thread gave me an opportunity to share said opinion.