[quote=@Ammokkx] To draw parallels with a tabletop game, in tabletops you have a shitload more systems. Aside from just punching a guy, you also have speech, investigation, smarts and any other manner of skills that could be useful and apply. At the same time, you're still playing in an actual world, so doing something stupid will get you punished, and this encourages, y'know, roleplaying. Arena, however, has one goal: Winning. This does not lend itself to RP, it lends itself to powergaming and the aforementioned ego-contest going on in there. I'm avoiding calling out specific individuals, but I do mean it when I say it's *the* elitist subforum. The people there I would rather stay there, because the infrastructure of the subforum combined with the community creates an incredibly toxic environment, and when I say [u][i][b]I[/b][/i][/u] want them out of my RPs, [u][i][b]I[/b][/i][/u] want them out of my RPs. You can hang around in there all I want; my opinion of the subforum won't change, and this thread gave me an opportunity to share said opinion. [/quote] You seem to forget that the Arena actually has rules, and these rules are discussed by both players before any match starts (Character Tiers, Win Conditions, Banned Actions etc). 'Powergaming and ego contest' can apply to any form of competition, and that ALSO extends to regular roleplay, marty stus and godmodding certainly isn't Arena specific, it just depends on who your playing with and what restrictions you've put in place. Share your opinion all you want but it sounds like this does boil down to bad experiences youve had with individuals and you are using anecdotes to call plenty of people youve never interacted before 'a toxic community' and people you [b]don't want in your RPs[/b]. Well guess what, you're wrong if you think that Arena RPers dont RP outside of it and there is a good chance you already have RPd or about to RP with people from that sub-forum, try not to be so prejudiced about people based on them posting in a sub-forum you dont like.