[quote=@Dynamo Frokane]Now Xaiver Bloodbayne is one person, and lets remember that later on in that thread he aplogised for his words, you were present for that too correct?[/quote] It felt like a contrived apology to me at the time and reading back upon it, but yes. I am also aware he is one person. Obviously. But it speaks volumes for the perception Arena has, why it has the reputation it does (this was a popular thread Odin devised at the time and I still stand by it), and a glimpse into the "culture" of the section at that point in time. [quote=@Dynamo Frokane]That shouldn't be confused with thinking that everyone in the Arena acts like that outside of IC, you don't actually think that do you? [/quote] I do not. At the most it [i]was[/i] a vocal minority. I cannot attest to how relevant the critique is now in the present. [quote=@Dynamo Frokane]Well thanks for being honest, but people having one or two bad experiences in this forum and then using that as a way to call this entire sub-forum toxic is pretty prejudiced and short sighted.[/quote] You should also take into account that I did not decry Arena in the thread you are criticizing. The two threads I participated in (IC-ly) died by my own faults. I was too slow to keep two key partners engaged and they died as a result of my lack of agency and posting speed. However, I have also participated in this thread on multiple occasions, discussed things with Mobius and others on Discord, and ultimately tried to be constructive in my engagement with the subforum and the community that has been built from it. I have no more issues with Arena than I do with any other section.