[quote=@Father Hank] Really? I don't feel that at all. I stopped participating in Casual about five years ago and every time I've tried to go back, the roleplays have too many people participating that roleplay at a level I'm not comfortable with. It's not about their English skills or even their writing skills but the characters they make and the things those characters do. It's often so immature that I just can't be bothered. On the other hand I also only participate in two Advanced RPs with some very strict application procedures (to the point that I was myself rejected the first time I applied to one of them). My experience might be skewed towards the absolute "best" (or most elitist, depends on how you look at it) the Guild has to offer. [/quote] Just because you [i]can[/i] move between the two doesn't mean you neccesarily want to. The crowd casual roleplays attract are definitely something I pay attention to, now more than ever, given how many people are in casual that are not meant to be there. Realistically, you could play in casual -- you just don't want to, and that's fine. Similarly, casual players could move to advanced if they strained themselves and applied some effort into 'improving' or just taking a while longer to brood over a post -- and they might not neccesarily want to do that. I agree that casual roleplays tend to attract some uhhhhhhh, overflow of 'free' characters that, despite trying to be well thought out and/or better written, retain some of the features that you typically see in free level characters. It's why I don't really participate in casual myself either, unless I'm running an RP (which, when you run Naruto roleplays like me, is a neccessity and not something I neccesarily want to do -- but the players are in casual and I need to fill an RP [i]somehow[/i]. I feel the burn of players making characters that are just immature every time I do so, so I definitely get what you are saying and it does bother me too). But I think that if I strained myself to find those characters in advanced, I could. Two roleplays are not really indicative of that I think (and even if they were, maturity of a character is somewhat subjective, as is writing quality, and all other things we judge people on). I do think that casual players could move to advanced, and vice versa, so I'll stand by that, but you are right in that most people probably do not want to (I know I'm hesitant to venture into casual for that very reason) even if they [i]technically[/i] can. And on that note, since you brought up maturity -- I think that's a more important distinction between casual and advanced than actual writing quality, since advanced does house the typically more matured players (natural progression? a desire to improve? something else?) and casual houses those that, well, I'm not sure.