[quote=@Dias Blade]I wasn't invalidating your perspective, I was invalidating your supposed 20 year record[/quote] Same difference. And it isn't supposed. It's a fact. [quote=@Dias Blade]So you disagree with something even though you have no actual reasoning for doing so?[/quote] No, I disagree with something and didn't want to elaborate at that given time. I have reasoning, but based on your comments our perspective is very different on the issue. [quote=@Dias Blade]You picked a fight with the wrong person, padre.[/quote] Discussion is not a fight, “padre”. This is a community thread discussing Arena and by the current measured topic – how to improve it. None of us have to agree with all of the ideas presented, but acting like this a little arena bout/fight is the definition of toxic. Your perceived notion of condescension and provocative implies you are upset over the phrasing so I suggest you take a step back and breathe. Stating “in my experience” is not condescension, it is just contextual wording to explain that I am not just some guy who has no knowledge of how arena forums work. [quote=@Dias Blade]Talking shit is LITERALLY the act of antagonizing, I don't know why you're writing that as if the two are different things. And with people like you stalking around this place yeah, I'm inclined to agree, although I would apply that same logic to the entire site. Its Elitists like you who ultimately cause the death of communities.[/quote] I'm not the one here who is trying to dictate extreme revisions of the leaderboards among other things, mate. There is nothing elitist about thinking an idea just isn't viable or fundamentally worthwhile. But sure, let's just resort to ad hominem and similar rhetoric. That always works well, right? [quote=@Dias Blade]Facts over Feelings, chief. [/quote] Pot meet Kettle. You were and are the one getting upset over phrasing. [i]~Bazinga.[/i] [quote=@Dias Blade]Let's add some more perspective here, I am NOT from RPGuild. This is not my community. This is not my forum. I am exactly the "outsider" demographic you guys are talking about.[/quote] No, we're not talking about people from offsite who had an arena culture and joined... another arena culture. We're talking about people who have interest to give Arena a try if it had a different approach to things. We're talking about people who either stepped away from it, have no direct affiliation with it, and so forth. You are not an outsider in the sense of the conversation. But I think you've obviously made your "point" here. Not sure what productive dialogue can be made with someone who is accusing others and is acting combative. You do you, fam. Nobody is going to pay you or promote you. I hope whatever fun you have in the arena is yours, but I definitely don't think anything we believe is compatible.