[quote=@Dias Blade]

I don't think bringing in people from other sections of the same site would count as "new blood."

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The goal is to increase the number of people participating in Arena, it most certainly counts.

As for your point about arena stats, sure, there's a problem. But is making a tiers system going to work with so few people participating in the arena? I don't think so.

[quote=@Dias Blade]

Kay...sounds like they failed said challenge then. I'm not entirely sure what the point is of that anecdote, I mean do you have a link to this thing? I feel like it would be better for to just see the setup for myself rather than ask for the details.

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My point was that "player Vs Mod" is basically what the rest of the forum is for. You don't need to see my RP to find it, I have yet to participate in an RP that doesn't feature this.

[quote=@Dias Blade]

To be fair, that's pretty standard policy for like any forum, not just RP related. Like if you want new people to come and stick around its just logical not to throw your weight around and treat them like crap. Actually that concept is true for life in general. Though when I see people make that assertion about this particular Arena, Iunno. I mean I've seen people give equal to if not more so attitude in the other sections as well.

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I've seen a fair bit of toxic behavior in casual. But everyone's in casual, so that's to be expected. Nearly every fight I see in here boils down to an OOC shouting match. The problem isn't that there's toxic people, it's just the ratio of toxic people to chill people. That's not good for a small group that wants to grow.

[quote=@Dias Blade]

Consider for a moment that there isn't actually a toxicity problem here. By someone's admission, the Newby Tournament brought in randos from other parts of this forum to the Arena, but that was just a temporary thing. I'm going to assume that such effort was also assisted by those who were likewise already established in said other sections and so all they did was just apply some of their influence over said sections to drum up recruits. I don't know if said tournament actually came to a full completion or not, but clearly folks didn't stick around.

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This is why it needs to be done again, and better. So far it's the only thing that's gotten people coming in here to do any actual role playing. Is it going to solve everyone's problems? unlikely. Arena's problems are too numerous to be solved by hosting a single arena. But it's where I'd start. 

[quote=@Dias Blade]

My point is that your Arena needs an overhaul and reasons for players to stay and invest time. TIME is the most valued commodity around, especially true for RP Communities. With work or school, other hobbies and interests, one's personal time is finite throughout the day. People, by and large, don't like wasting their time. If they do something, its because they want to do it for whatever reason. But there IS always a reason involved. That's how our species is hardwired. So, in staying true to what the Arena is and the purpose it has always served within the Greater RP Community, you implement a system designed to ENCOURAGE said time investment.

Hence the reason I shared this;
[youtube]https://youtu.be/z-79WwFMiO0[/youtube]

Its Human Behavioral Science. There is an actual methodology associated with the things I was suggesting. 
Do you HAVE to use said suggestions? No, obviously.
But there's actual wisdom in said feedback. Even if said ideas inspired something similar, the point is my wisdom has been shared and its for the purpose of being helpful. If what you're doing hasn't been working, then consider a "new perspective" to be just the thing you're missing. You might be surprised by the results.
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I don't think anyone is going to argue that arena needs an overhaul. Strictly speaking for myself, an achievement system and other shallow reward systems are not going to turn people like me into arena regulars. I need to feel like the mini-community is worth participating in. But I've already said this. 

I feel the core problem with Arena is that nobody [i]really[/i] wants to change anything. Anything that would require an admin's help (coding) is well out of arms reach.