[quote=@Red Alice] [@Raineh Daze] I think you're missing my point like with the 'B- PC' stuff, so I grabbed some quotes to try and explain it. It'd be hard to catch if you watched anime only, which is a possibility. I was just using Knight Tactics as an example and you seem to be stuck on it. The idea is that instinct is only valid if Saber herself isn't the one messing up. It still doesn't full 'counter' instinct even if that's the case, but it can certainly help to pull off an ambush(Something normally impossible, though there are ways like for example Snake vs Saber) Also, instinct is very weak to things you can't 'Understand', such as Snake-style. The idea for the dance Noble Phantasm was that it invites check failures in the actual dance moves, and that it's difficult for her opponent to 'understand' what she is doing. In other words, thematically it works a lot like the Snake fight combined with the Diarmuid fight- both things that actually work quite well against something like 'Instinct' or 'Eye of the Mind'. Naturally of course someone with high ranked instinct can deal with both, as Saber has, but it still definitely gives you a first time ambush advantage on an enemy. It's an excellent way for an Assassin to score kills, and under the right conditions, even defeat Servants they normally couldn't with team support- Like True Assassin and the Shadow. Keep in mind I'm only posting this since I don't think we've reached a very good understanding on what I've said so far, so I wanted to clear it up. I'll keep my mouth shut on further sheets and anymore discussion regarding instinct because you asked. I'll only respond to someone if they ask for advice over the OOC or via PMs. I don't like cluttering the OOC anyway. [/quote] You are not right, not at all. Diarmuid has(and always had) only two canon skills outside of GO (where he needs Knight Tactics to fill his 3rd skill slot). You should never use GO-based retcon material outside of GO because the circumstances of that story (especially the Servants being summoned using the FATE system which allows for extra skills, ascensions, etc) aren't easy to be replicated outside of there. As a proof, here is his original character sheet, that comes with Fate/Zero's original release: [hider=My Hider] [img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458062629349621780/483731273349726214/1535400914883-641217191.jpg[/img] [/hider] [hider=My Hider] [img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458062629349621780/483731109247451147/1535400864891-834080322.jpg[/img] [/hider] PS: The Skills are only EotM(True) and Love Spot, by the way.