[quote=@Dinh AaronMk] [@Willy Vereb] If what you mean by hundguns preserved by primitive means as guns from before the deluge, then I'd have to say no. [/quote]Not preserved, they would make guns by relatively primitive means which probably also has some religious importance to them. One problem could be the idea of guns being present during that age but technically by the 15th century gunpowder weapons had nearly 5 centuries on them so if you add that they have contact with other developing civilizations during this period their handgonnes would not sound as outlandish to have. I have some alternative means so we can brainstorm out an idea that works, of course.